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Post by Tristan on 2011-03-06, 2:48 pm

Hi guys, I have a question for those who already had their cars with them for quite sometime and had clock in a reasonable amount of mileage. When accelerating from a standstill, does the tachometer revs all the way up to 3000-3200 rpm? I'm talking about a fairly gentle acceleration as my car has yet to pass 300km in mileage. The other thing is when I'm in a slow moving traffic and can't accelerate smoothly through the gears and had to lift off the gas pedal, it sorts of feels jerky like how u would if u are driving a manual car in first gear and suddenly encounters traffic and had to lift off your gas pedal. Just wondering if the car behaves in such a way because it has a dual clutch transmission instead of a normal torque converter or the gear components are still new or if it is just simply abnormal?
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Post by SPEEDSPiRiT on 2011-03-06, 5:36 pm

i am feeling it also...
makes u feel like u r not a good driver driving a manual...

i even hear kraaaaaaaaaaaaaak krak and the car jerks when i gently accelerate from stand still.

i can even make the sound louder if i want it to when i step on the accelerator a bit more...

very irritating

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Post by yowa82 on 2011-03-06, 6:48 pm

2 questions there:
- high rpm from the start.
= not sure. maybe need to be MORE gentle. don't know.

- jerky.
= some say, it'll disappear with high mileage. me personally, ...if u said like unskilled manual driver, never happened to me, since 1st day got my SEDAN fofi. are you Sukan Fofi?
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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by jacklsw86 on 2011-03-06, 7:18 pm

u have to adjust urself. the dual clutch usually takes around 3k rpm to get the 1st gear changed into 2nd. what i do is i press the accelerator a lil harder to rev it up till u feel the gear changes to 2nd and u can slowly pull back your leg but not totally release the accelerator pedal so u won't feel the jerk. practice makes perfect Wink
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Post by Tristan on 2011-03-06, 9:00 pm

Ya, hopefully it disappears with mileage.
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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by klimal on 2011-03-07, 11:22 am

SPEEDSPiRiT wrote:i am feeling it also...
makes u feel like u r not a good driver driving a manual...

i even hear kraaaaaaaaaaaaaak krak and the car jerks when i gently accelerate from stand still.

i can even make the sound louder if i want it to when i step on the accelerator a bit more...

very irritating

The transmission is very silent. Suggests you take it back to check if the sound persist.
As to the jerking,yes it is annoying, especially from 1st to 2nd.
It is worse when I try to accelerate as gently as possible so the change occurs at 2800 rpm.To induce the change, I lift off the throttle ever so slightly as it approaches 2800, and it will upshift.
However, if you drive with normal accleration so that it upshifts at 3,00-3,500 rpm, there is very minimal jerk.
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Post by BRAINSTEW on 2011-03-07, 4:53 pm

in stop and go traffic, i suggest u to get use to L gear. it will minimise jerking n avoiding gear hunting.
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Post by Sky9683 on 2011-03-08, 6:37 pm

Fresh drive jerking,now I try my best to balance my foot ,to avoid the jerking.Now Improve a lot.Some times the foot balance depends ,not every driver same.
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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by klimal on 2011-03-08, 6:42 pm

Must always remember this is a dual clutch manual with electronic shifts, not a torque converter.
Will never be as seamless but definitely more responsive to pedal input.
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Post by eelynshl on 2011-03-08, 10:46 pm

will the 1.4 manual transmission be a good buy? as in performance, handling & stability? i realised that the max power & torque r very much lower if were to compare to the 1.6sports. will the performance be affected? bcz i did thought of getting the manual specs and modify the rims & tyres to bigger ones, as well as changing the coil spring for better stability. it is just the performance which im considering of, whether to get the auto sports?

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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by zenzainal on 2011-03-24, 8:39 pm

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Post by teetaatee on 2011-03-24, 11:28 pm

to me, i'm used to it driving it already. so i won't really feel jerky unless during a very "kan cheong" parking moment.

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Post by SPEEDSPiRiT on 2011-03-25, 10:41 pm

i can drive without the jerk of cos...
i can drive and make the sound of the gearbox kraking...

hmm....i'll go back to the SC or try another fifo...
anywayz it's my mum's car so she say she dont hear it...
so i might just drop the idea...

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Post by SPEEDSPiRiT on 2011-03-25, 10:43 pm

klimal wrote:
SPEEDSPiRiT wrote:i am feeling it also...
makes u feel like u r not a good driver driving a manual...

i even hear kraaaaaaaaaaaaaak krak and the car jerks when i gently accelerate from stand still.

i can even make the sound louder if i want it to when i step on the accelerator a bit more...

very irritating

The transmission is very silent. Suggests you take it back to check if the sound persist.
As to the jerking,yes it is annoying, especially from 1st to 2nd.
It is worse when I try to accelerate as gently as possible so the change occurs at 2800 rpm.To induce the change, I lift off the throttle ever so slightly as it approaches 2800, and it will upshift.
However, if you drive with normal accleration so that it upshifts at 3,00-3,500 rpm, there is very minimal jerk.

i know exactly what u mean
and when it upshit (that is the time u can hear the kraking sound)
wonder how come nobody bothers about it???
hmm...


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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by klimal on 2011-03-26, 10:21 am

There is no sound when it upshifts, AFAIK.
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Post by pepsiman on 2011-04-20, 12:07 pm

Do you guy hear transmission sort of like knocking noise during 1st to 2nd shifting when the car is started for 1st time in the day?

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Post by Dias on 2011-04-20, 2:28 pm

Nope. Only the purring of the engine can be heard when accelerating from standstill.
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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by SJR on 2011-04-26, 4:49 pm

So for those with the transmission issue, have you brought your car back to SDAC or SCs ? What did they say ? Did they managed to fix the problem ? Did they ack the post by Alper and that there is a technical bulletin in Ford USA for terminal grounding and software fix ?


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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by yappysh on 2011-05-28, 5:48 pm

I have just placed an order for Fiesta but having read about the issues on transmission, I am comtemplating to cancel my order. 3 areas of concern:

1) I believe the new fiestas should have the software updated - but is this the true root cause or is there an underlying design issue with this gearbox?

2) The 1st to 2nd gear shift happened at high rpm 3k - is this normal? How can we have fuel saving with such high rpm change?

3) Noisy gearbox - is this a wide spread issue?

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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by jacklsw86 on 2011-05-29, 4:17 pm

i'm not sure whether the technicians in sdac knows how to update the software/firmware of the transmission or not, but so far i had no serious issue on this dual clutch transmission.

fofi might be quite rev-happy but it just goes into high rpm for split seconds before it changes gear, won't really affect the fuel consumption much. if you are patient enough to be light footed, u can actually control it till 2.5k rpm from 1st to 2nd gear.

just reviewing from ppl's words are not enough. you gotta test drive it yourself to feel it Smile
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Post by yappysh on 2011-05-30, 8:33 am

Thanks. I test drove the car already but I did not notice any problem with the transmission, perhaps I did not really put much attention to it then. I will arrange for another test drive. However I did notice then the hi-rpm sound of the engine during pick up.

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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by yappysh on 2011-05-30, 9:31 am

Just to share what I found about the Getrag transmission from Uncle Wiki.

"Getrag provided its first commercial applications for the Dodge Journey and Volvo S40 and V50 from mid-2008....Getrag dual clutch transmission are used in the BMW M3, BMW Z4 Sdrive35i, Ferrari California, Ferrari 458 Italia, Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X, FORD and Renault vehicles."

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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by aver2727 on 2011-08-11, 12:54 am

i found there is deficiency in the gear ratio, not that smooth Sad

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Re: Fiesta Transmission

Post by dershyong on 2011-08-11, 12:37 pm

So far no issues from my FoFi gearbox. Need to be gentle with the accelerator during the "stop and go" jam. I have managed to achieve gear change 1st to 2nd at 2,000 RPM. But sometimes the gear tend to drag a little in the basement car park.
And as for real high rev acceleration, I have pushed it to the red line too. I think it is a matter of getting used to it and controlling it. I feel that the gearshift is something that you can control. I'm still trying to master it. My fuel comsumption is 460km per full tank.

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Post by mrkopiko on 2011-08-11, 2:05 pm

aver2727 and dershyong,

When you say not smooth/drag, is there a sound with it? Or just jerking? Mine has a sound but only sometimes (depending on what, not sure). But I notice it more after I go through bumps. Sound very rough (dont know how to explain) between the 1st and 2nd gear. On highways, no problem. Smooth.

Went to check yesterday, but waited for 2 hours without being attended to, even with appointment made. But that's different issuelah right.....

So now haven't checked, and I have decided to hentam sajalah. If rosak I just called them to tow the car (towed once already within first 2 weeks, battery/starter problem).

Please suggest a good Ford Service Centre.

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